tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394711926853801811.post6725782889812098988..comments2024-03-28T16:54:44.319-07:00Comments on The Emeryville Tattler: Will Emeryville's New Bike Plan Be Ignored?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394711926853801811.post-55853319131784327212012-10-02T17:37:36.286-07:002012-10-02T17:37:36.286-07:00Fair enough. Generally I feel that Emeryville'...Fair enough. Generally I feel that Emeryville's bicycle plan is a farce and feel that the city council is playing fast and loose with its own rules ... which is something I think that we generally agree about ... I just have trouble accepting that Horton Street is explicitly unsafe.Sykesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394711926853801811.post-36779800069024314962012-10-02T16:17:23.643-07:002012-10-02T16:17:23.643-07:00I like the use of the word 'please' on a t...I like the use of the word 'please' on a traffic sign...it's something unexpected among all the didactically barking authoritarian signage. We should look into actually doing this. <br />Brian Donahuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12705682112476904502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394711926853801811.post-83736072569557574012012-10-02T09:47:01.073-07:002012-10-02T09:47:01.073-07:00Coupled with traffic calming measures, how about s...Coupled with traffic calming measures, how about some signage on all bicycle blvds which would read for example, "Horton is a Bicycle Blvd, Auto's please use Hollis" or "No Thru Traffic". Another low budget form of traffic calming would be to make the street a 15 mile per hour zone and have the police enforce the limit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394711926853801811.post-37148174281972170232012-10-01T09:26:54.270-07:002012-10-01T09:26:54.270-07:00Diversion may in fact be the only way....first we&...Diversion may in fact be the only way....first we'll have to see the results of the level 4 traffic calming. You should realize the level 4 treatments on Horton will make Hollis more desirable, especially at rush hour(s), so we may be able to stop there before moving on to level 5. <br /><br />This is how the new bike plan is intended to work...the key word is 'work' in that statement. It's supposed to take away politics from the method. As we have seen however, science in public policy is something Republicans in Washington are fearful of as well as the Emeryville city council (historically). Brian Donahuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12705682112476904502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394711926853801811.post-49758137617868288012012-10-01T08:47:41.894-07:002012-10-01T08:47:41.894-07:00How do they expect Horton street to ever fall belo...How do they expect Horton street to ever fall below the recommended number of vehicles when it serves Novartis, Pixar, and the train station, and serves as a perfect alternative to Hollis.<br />Diversion will be the only way, force people down Hollis.<br />Of course, if you are going to that, you better widen Hollis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394711926853801811.post-2754192931802090312012-09-30T17:16:52.554-07:002012-09-30T17:16:52.554-07:00The City of Emeryville has decided to make law bas...The City of Emeryville has decided to make law based on the standards of the norm... sort of. Municipalities across California (and the nation for that matter) have assigned metrics for bike boulevards. Since bike bulevards are supposed to be for bikes primarily but vehicles are also allowed and since they share the road and since vehicles move faster than bikes and are in conflict with bikes, metrics governing cars are called for. These metrics quantify maximum vehicle speeds and volumes. Emeryville has adopted the max volume of 3000 per day, on the high side but within the bell curve of municipalities nation wide. The metrics define what is safe and what is unsafe, so in Palo Alto forinstance more than 1500 vehicles per day is considered unsafe as opposed to Emeryville's 3000. <br /><br />Ultimatley, a number has to be agreed to in setting bike saftey law or any law for that matter. One could argue that it's patently absurd that a person 20 years and 364 days should be allowed to drink alcohol but the law says it's illeagal until the following day; or 21 years of age. You can argue all you want as a 20 year old one day shy of your birthday but that's the way the law rolls.Brian Donahuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12705682112476904502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394711926853801811.post-22352001047501873472012-09-30T12:53:25.761-07:002012-09-30T12:53:25.761-07:00I think it's a stretch to call the Alta Study,...I think it's a stretch to call the Alta Study, written by a bicycle, pedestrian, and trail planning company, unbiased. Why is 3000 safe but 3001 suddenly unsafe? It seems arbitrary to rely on a single number without more carefully looking at the types of traffic and the behavior of drivers.Sykesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394711926853801811.post-6174421306246989882012-09-29T22:37:35.616-07:002012-09-29T22:37:35.616-07:00It is the Alta study that concludes that more than...It is the Alta study that concludes that more than 3000 vehicles per day on Horton Street constitutes an unsafe biking condition. The most recent traffic counts on Horton puts the number over 3000 for most of the length of the street and up over 5000 in certain areas. The Alta study is definitive: more than 3000 is unsafe. Brian Donahuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12705682112476904502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394711926853801811.post-63932285371345417022012-09-29T21:03:04.110-07:002012-09-29T21:03:04.110-07:00Is there compelling unbiased data that supports th...Is there compelling unbiased data that supports the assertion that the Horton Street bike boulevard is dangerous to bicycles? Has there been a recent study or a rash of collisions that I'm unaware of? As someone who bikes Horton Street frequently, I would certainly prefer more aggressive action, but I've never felt unsafe on the street ... and regardless, the bicycle boulevard plan is a cop-out and will likely remain a failure anyway.Sykesnoreply@blogger.com