tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394711926853801811.post4004607161130725857..comments2024-03-28T16:54:44.319-07:00Comments on The Emeryville Tattler: Emeryville Is Named In EPA LawsuitUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394711926853801811.post-20105805678358989882011-03-23T13:56:08.355-07:002011-03-23T13:56:08.355-07:00Anon, I'm on 62nd and did get some notice a wh...Anon, I'm on 62nd and did get some notice a while back. Pretty open-ended, but at least it was something.Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394711926853801811.post-18153009831800814822011-03-22T12:55:40.855-07:002011-03-22T12:55:40.855-07:00I wish that we on 63rd Street, where work is still...I wish that we on 63rd Street, where work is still being done, were alerted to the sewer work. We received no notice and no explanation. I asked for info on our block's yahoo group and no one knew what was happening. <br />One neighbor said water was leaking out of the pipes, another said water was leaking into the pipes. <br />What I do know is that there are still huge holes in 63rd St. with trucks and large pipes blocking needed parking space. Funny but all of these items seem to have been abandoned on the street. I haven't seen a worker out there in about 10 days (as of 3/22/11).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394711926853801811.post-87004717868835590402011-03-22T10:30:54.766-07:002011-03-22T10:30:54.766-07:00I love the first poster's tortured logic. The ...I love the first poster's tortured logic. The Redevelopment Agency has had 40 years to repair the sewer laterals. Rather than spend money to protect the Bay from raw sewage, the Redevelopment Agency has prioritized augmenting Rich Robbins' already impressive fortune.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394711926853801811.post-23948194153131870702011-03-21T21:25:56.797-07:002011-03-21T21:25:56.797-07:00The first commenter doesn't know what he's...The first commenter doesn't know what he's talking about. Every city in the East Bay is built with separate storm water and sewer systems. The storm water drains directly to the Bay taking with it the toxins from the street including oil. The second commenter is correct: ground water rises during the winter and infiltrates faulty old sewer laterals that go from houses and businesses to the sewer mains in the street. That is how the water treatment plant gets overwhelmed and releases raw sewage into the Bay. The first guy is talking out of his ass. Only in San Francisco is the storm water purposefully fed into the sewer system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394711926853801811.post-41273414492907704972011-03-21T20:34:24.162-07:002011-03-21T20:34:24.162-07:00The first commenter nicely illustrates one of the ...The first commenter nicely illustrates one of the two competing models of patriotism: the 'see no evil' model. In this model, patriotism is seen as blind allegiance; flaws are to be hidden and criticism is to be stifled. Authoritarian triumphalism is the order of the day.<br /> <br />In the other model, the sort of 'see evil and try to correct it' model, patriotism involves love of the collectivist political entity so much that flaws are to be brought out into the open so that they may be fixed and the political entity strengthened. It is a model that places inherent trust in open debate and even posits that very debate is part and parcel of the entity.Brian Donahuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12705682112476904502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394711926853801811.post-7255789067582286282011-03-21T18:56:26.205-07:002011-03-21T18:56:26.205-07:00The real problem is the excess inflow to the sanit...The real problem is the excess inflow to the sanitary sewer system from groundwater when it rains. Hence the sewer lateral ordinances in many cities. However, it's only at point-of-sale, not system-wide. They need an incentive to replace sewer laterals for folks who are not transferring, like 70% reimbursement the first year, 50% the next, 30% the third year, or an outright grant. Otherwise they need huge holding tanks, like the one under the Great Highway, or a much larger treatment plant.T. Modicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394711926853801811.post-4891239561964240722011-03-21T18:52:17.063-07:002011-03-21T18:52:17.063-07:00Is there nothing you won't spin?
This issue...Is there nothing you won't spin? <br /><br />This issue is due entirely to the fact that we live in an older city. When older cities were built, they were built with without separate stormwater and sewer systems. Therefore, when it rains heavily, the stormwater goes into the sewer and sometimes it overflows and raw sewage flows into the bay or ocean or river. Almost every older city has this problem. Yes, it is a problem that should be fixed, and some cities have done this already, but it is also a problem the is HUGELY expensive to fix. Redevelopment us usually a good source of funds for infrastructure, but we might not have that luxury if the legislature takes it away. <br /><br />It should be noted that this order involves EVERY SINGLE city and special district which provides sewer service in EBMUD's wasterwater service area, which streches from Richmond to Oakland. The article failed to mention that and so did Brian because it wouldn't have allowed him to spin the article for his own purposes. In this respect, our city is no less green than any of our neighboring East Bay Cities, including Berkeley, Oakland, Albany, Peidmont...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com